Apparently someone didn’t grow up in a farming community. Kids on farms with livestock tend to learn pretty early on about the realities of where meat comes from. It’s not some horrible “OH MY GOD YOU KILLED THE CUTE LITTLE PIG HOW DARE YOU” message that they get, but “We’ve cared for this pig* for this amount of time, and now’s the time we kill it so we have meat (or sell it so we have money to pay the bills)”. Yes, there are farm kids who grow up to be vegan, but plenty don’t.
There’s a huge disconnect between American culture and the realities of our food and where it comes from, across the board. This leads not only to ignorance like the above sign, but also the horror of modern factory farms. There are much more humane ways to kill an animal for meat than the mass-production lines, just as there are more eco-friendly ways to grow produce than growing huge fields of nothing but one crop, with pesticides and chemical fertilizers for all. The problem with “OMG YOU EAT MEAT? YOU MONSTER!” attitudes is that they keep distancing people from reality; most people don’t respond well to guilt, and therefore won’t investigate their options. Because when you present your way as the ONLY way, people who don’t adhere to that way will turn back to whatever they were doing because your way doesn’t work for them.
But if we encourage everyone to learn about where food comes from, then let people make their own educated decisions, then we have more of a chance of making things better. It may not match everyone’s idea of “better”, because there are always going to be people who eat meat and some other people make it their business to not like that. But I’d rather have people eating meat from free-range farms and humane kills (and have THAT be the subsidized, affordable source) than the way things are now. Encouraging curiosity and open inquiry, not political fundamentalism and guilt-slinging, seems to be a better way to bring that about.
(* And there’s a good reason they tell you as a kid to stay away from the pig pen. Pigs are NOT safe to be around, especially when full grown, and they have been known to eat people who got into their pens. We’re not sending adorable little cute things to the slaughterhouse.)
My grandfather cooked all kinds of shit. I once saw a fully skinned animal (still don’t know if it was a deer or what) hanging, the head of a pig, and I’ve helped him pluck chickens. That includes watching him slap one around then chop its head off. Then I take off the feathers and he opens them up and removes the insides.
Oh and we had a peach and pecan tree. Yip yip.
Dude, I really don’t understand why people think family farm where animals are cleanly slaughtered without complication = industrial slaughter house.
If you manage to get all of your meat from a friendly place with care for animals that’s a little better, but slaughter houses are horrifying, dangerous for the people working there and gives them psychological damage over the years, and it’s where you’ll be getting practically all of your meat products unless you make a serious effort to eat only family farm stuff.
This post isn’t about family farms, it’s about slaughter houses. It’s about watching the malfunctions in the system while an animal is still alive and living without it’s skin freaking out, or watching some dude lose an arm. You can’t ignore that bullshit because you grew up on a fun family operation with butchering of dead animals. It’s not the same thing.
…aaaand you completely missed my original points which is are:
—The distancing between us and our food is how abusive systems occur, both with animal and plant based foods, and
—That encouraging people to be more aware of where their food comes from WITHOUT shoving a one-true-solution at them is a more effective way to create change than guilt tripping them through shocking signs.
I didn’t miss your point, I disagreed with it. (no disrespect)
-I agree with the distancing between us and our food allows an abusive system to occur, but that aside, to say that meat itself isn’t a problem isn’t true. It takes around ten times the resources to produce a pound of beef as it does a pound of broccoli. And, once again, no disrespect, but you pointed this out specifically with an image criticizing slaughter houses, not small farms. Those are horrifying, and they’re the only way people can consume the amount of meat and animal products they do. Which isn’t sustainable in terms of the resources put into it. Without that system and the level of subsidies it receives, it’d be impossible to eat anywhere near the amount of meat someone does now, unless it’s maybe one meal with meat every two weeks. It’s not an ethical choice.
-Okay, look, slaughter house images and the painful stuff animals go through to get that level of meat to market are not “shocking” and it’s not “guilt tripping” to bring that to the attention to the american consumer. It’s extremely mundane, and it’s not about the consumer, it’s about the unlawful practices the animals are going through for something ultimately completely needless. That’s the problem. Small family farms are kinder to animals, but still take up a large amount of resources to produce meat, and they’re still ultimately killing an animal when there’s no need to.
And family farms aren’t comparable choices to factory farming because they can’t make up the consumers demand for animal products. Unless the demand was to become extremely small, and meat isn’t something that can be produced for much profit and sold at lower prices without large subsidies given out by the government, which is extremely unethical in itself. Because when you subsidize a food that costs so much to produce ineffectively through lobbying, that’s not helpful for someone in poverty. Consider how it would be if subsidization couldn’t be lobbied, and it was still used to help Americans afford groceries. Stuff that already costs a small amount like beans, fruit, veggies, and wheat would drop to reasonable prices and be affordable to people who really need it, instead of meat, which most people really don’t. I stopped eating meat when I had severe anemia, and now almost fourteen years later, I’m extremely healthy in every aspect of my life.
If you wanna talk more about this pls send me an ask and maybe we can skype or something, I don’t really wanna clog my dash. And once again, no disrespect. I have an aunt who runs a small farm too in California. I have no delusions about this topic.